Talk:Cards and Runes

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Got stuck on using "The Moon"[edit source]

I got teleported into a secret room without an exit, because both ajoining rooms were special rooms. I could not bomb myself out of it. Had to quit the game. Have the same problem with "The moon" card, leaving a image for proofs. The seed (B0W6 G9A9) was randomly generated: http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj565/Edo_Cryst/isaacbugmooncard_zpsfb9794b1.jpg --Anon

Has been confirmed to be a bug. A nasty one on top of that. --Dooomspeaker (talk) 07:08, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Rune Descriptions[edit source]

I feel we need to add descriptions of individual runes to the Rune table in this page, as they appear in the game, like there already is with the cards ("Abundance" for Jera, "Passage" for Ehwaz, etc)--Specialbro (talk) 00:51, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I've added this. --Zamie (talk) 04:18, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Extra card[edit source]

I found a red backed card in the Blue womb that reads "? card" and it seems to have doubled everything in the shop like Jera does. MAybe it does a random card/rune effect or something? --Anon

Yes, see Cards and Runes#Special_Cards. --Zamie (talk) 04:18, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Not Unlocked Runes Appearing in Hard Runs[edit source]

been finding blank runes constantly during my runs in greed mode and hard mode, without ever beating challange #30. anyone know why this would occur? --Anon

Is it still happening in the latest patch? --Zamie (talk) 04:18, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Weird Whitespace[edit source]

Why is there so much ugly whitespace before the "Playing Cards" and "Special Cards" sections? Can they be removed? --Zamie (talk) 04:18, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Fixed, the card templates had a bunch of newlines in them. --Exschwasion (talk) 05:00, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Blank Rune Science[edit source]

I've spent the morning testing Blank Runes with Cheat Engine:

  • Total uses: 310
  • Total dupes: 77
  • Percent: 0.248387097

I will update the page accordingly. --Zamie (talk) 18:50, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Temperance[edit source]

Temperance spawns a Devil Beggar in Greed Mode.

I can confirm, updating the other page. Edit: How the hell do you edit the table? Can someone else do it for me, it only shows card names if I try to edit.68.133.15.186 04:00, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Black Rune Testing[edit source]

I'm not sure how to make edits to the Cards and Runes tables myself, but I've done some testing with the Blank Card and the Black Rune and have found that it does the following things:

  • Deals damage to every enemy in the room (mod spider shows -400 as the damage)
  • Consumes all active and passive items on pedestals in the room to give random stat increases/decreases (like the Void does with passive items, but the Rune does not gain the active effects of consumed active items; it just consumes them and gives a stat change)
  • Turns all pickups in the room into blue flies.

Additionally, after using it in the Super Secret Room on a floor, the boss later dropped the Brimstone item. I didn't have Chaos or any other item I know affects item pools, and it was relatively early in the game, so I don't know why it would have happened if it wasn't the Black Rune causing it, but it may have just been a bug. Someone else should test to see if this happens to them.

If anyone else would like to verify my findings and add it to the page for others to see, I would be grateful. Cheers.

Greedier mode[edit source]

It seems to me that the combination of Blank Card item + 2 of Diamonds combination is nerfed somehow. I get the item and other cards and runes, but not the 2 of Diamonds. Likewise, I get the 2 of Diamonds and then never get the Blank Card item I did numerous run throughs (about 70) and never got the combination. I will do more run throughs just to be sure, but I'd like to hear if anyone else seemed to have noticed this.

Update: Through Jera and D20 did get the 2 of Diamonds but the odds are still very low

Blank rune question[edit source]

Can blank rune trigger black rune once is it unlocked? --108.45.161.144 21:10, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Playing and Special cards' card back[edit source]

I have a serious suspicion, that those cards have a card back that looks the same as, or at least references red "Rider Back" Bicycle cards' card back.

Strength Card and Keeper[edit source]

When playing as Keeper, if he only has 1 health (= 1 coin), using the Strength card - and maybe picking up a coin while it's active - will actually give Keeper 2 health (= 2 coins) even after he leaves the room! --77.173.90.33 20:47, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Adding info on Jera rune[edit source]

Apparently it doesn't work on items which are affected by "Curse of the Blind"

Health up became Health down[edit source]

I just used a Jera card in a room with a Health Up pill on the floor, and it added a Health Down pill. --77.173.90.33 19:45, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

This is also error[edit source]

Just letting you know

I, uh, see that. Wow. Why's the Wiki broken? It was fine the other day. I'll take a look at the i template. --JokerPixel (talk) 01:39, 1 November 2018 (UTC)